Theory Of Exception

செவ்வாய் வெறும் வாய்

2012-02-14T00:23:00.000-08:00

செவ்வாய் வெறும் வாயு

செவ்வாய் வெறும் வாய்

This indicates that the soil on Mars has had an extremely dry history.

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46282840/ns/technology_and_science-space/

ஆஸ்திகன் யார் ?

2012-02-14T00:09:00.000-08:00

எவன் நாஸ்திகன் இல்லையோ அவனே ஆஸ்திகன் என்று சொல்லலாம் .

நாஸ்திகன் என்றால் அகத்தை அழித்தவன் என்று பொருள் கொள்ளலாம். அல்லது அகத்தை மறுப்பவன் என்றும் பொருள் கொள்ளலாம்.

எவன் ஒருவன் தன்னை ஆஸ்திகன் என்று சொல்லி கொண்டு அகத்தை அழித்து செயல் படுகிறானோ அவன் நாஸ்திகன் ஆவான்.

அகத்தை மறுத்து செயல் படும் நாஸ்திகன் நல்லவனாக இருக்கலாம்,
ஆனால் அகத்தை அழித்து செயல் படும் போலி ஆத்திகனான நாஸ்திகன் நல்லவனாக இருக்க மாட்டான்.

ஆஸ்திகன் யார் ?
தன் ஆஸ்தியே அகம் என்று இருப்பவர் மட்டுமே ஆஸ்திகர் . அதாவது , அகத்துக்கு பயந்து செயல் படுவோர் என்று சொல்லலாம்.

நாஸ்தி என்ற சென்னை தமிழ் (My thoughts)

2012-02-10T22:15:00.000-08:00

நாஸ்தி என்ற சென்னை தமிழ்

பொதுவாக நாஸ்தி என்ற வார்த்தை சென்னை தமிழ் என்று நினைத்து கொண்டிருக்கின்றனர். ஆனால் நாஸ்திகம் என்ற சமஸ்க்ருத வார்த்தையில் இருந்து பிறந்தது என்று எனக்கு தோன்றுகிறது.

நாஸ்தி என்றால் என்ன:

நாஸ்தி பண்ணிடுவேன் என்ற வார்த்தை அழித்து விடுவேன் என்பதை குறிக்கிறது.

நாஸ்திகம் என்றால் என்ன:

நாஸ்தி + அகம் என்ற இரு வேறு வார்த்தைகள் நாஸ்திகம் என்று சொல்லபடுகிறது (My thoughts). அதாவது அகத்தை அழித்தவன் என்று பொருள் கொள்ளலாம். அல்லது அகத்தை மறுப்பவன் என்றும் பொருள் கொள்ளலாம்.

தொடரும்

If there are any mistakes in my tamil writing, Kindly point it out. I am new to writing in Tamil. Thank you

God Krishna Tells A story Which Tells About Earth revolving Around the Sun

2010-09-01T00:05:00.000-07:00

Uddhava Gita:

Who is Uddhava? (Wikipedia)
Uddhava (also known as Pavanayadhi) is a character from the Puranic texts of Hinduism, wherein his is the friend and counsellor of Krishna the avatar. He plays a significant role in the Bhagavata Purana, being taught the processes of yoga and bhakti directly by Krishna. Krishna spoke the Uddhava Gita (also referred to as Hamsa Gita) to Uddhava shortly before he left the world in order to help console Uddhava after his forthcoming departure. It commences with Uddhava's perplexity after he saw the impending destruction of the Yadava community, in which Krishna was also born.

Some people interpret God Krishna's time some 5000 Years before (But i believe it to be lakhs of years before). Lets come to the Story. The story that the lord says, happens to be even before Krishna's time.

The story is about an Interaction between an Avadhutar and a King. In Indian Puranas, Usually, before mentioning a person by name, they tell about their forefathers (Maybe they might have predicted that future generations of preachers trying to provide false timelines to Ancient puranas)

The King asks the Avadhutar (Who is very young and with shining face), Even after not engaged in any religious activity, how are you looking very enlightened., for that the Avadhutar replies,

He has 24 Teachers including the Earth.

His Interpretaions:
I have many teachers O King. Hear Me well, Son of Yayati, Grandson of Nahusa,

FROM THE EARTH I LEARN TO REMAIN UNDISTURBED

EVEN WHILE BEING OPPRESSED

BY THOSE WHO SWAY OF THEIR OWN DESTINY

THE EARTH TAUGHT ME NOT TO DEVIATE

FROM THE COURSE I SET FOR MYSELF~

JUST AS IT DOES NOT DEVIATE

FROM ITS PATH AROUND THE SUN

The Same Sage Continues to say about a prostitute, who feels disgusted about life\

The prostitute sings like:

This body is but the house in which the self dwells for a time.
It consists of bones and limbs, covered with skin, hair and nails.
It emits foul odours,
And has nine exits for waste
Who would value it but me?

After that, The avadhuthar tells on how to Reach the self.

Holding a Steady Posture,
One should quiet the Mind
And control the breath.
Through the power of Ones renunciation (I think, it depends on how you attracted you are to the world through the senses. The more you are attracted, the more your mind will deviate from its point).
And regular Practice
This quiet will be sustained.

Then Center the mind on the Self
And slowly it will cease its activity;
Both Rajas and Tamas
Will be submerged into Satva.

Click Here to Read the Entire Hamsa vita (Or Uddhava gita) here:

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Birth Cycle as per Srimad Bhagavatam

2010-08-27T05:46:00.000-07:00

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 3.31 tells the true story of the child in the womb. The fetus in the womb is in a terrible suffering condition. Forget what you have been told about it; the Vedic scriptures like Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam tell us the real truth. This is verified by research in intensive regression therapy when people re-experience their prenatal traumas. Original animations by Kānāi dās.

Praise God Krishna for giving us the Body just to escape from this body

Brain Death does not Mean Death

2010-08-27T04:41:00.000-07:00

What We see and what others see Will ALWAYS be different. Every human sees everything in a different way, simply because, not all can be in a same point at the same time.

Example would be:

Man 1 sees a Tree
Man 2 standing next to him Sees a Tree

The way both sees a tree and the angle will always be different. But, That which is true cant appear differently to different beings.

1) Why?
The best answer would be, What we see depends on how our mind interprets it. So what we see (or anything related to our senses) is related to our mind. So senses are the tools that shapes (Decides) the outward reality for the Mind. When there are no senses, mind will remain dormant, but it wont get destroyed. So in case of a Brain dead person, one cant say he has died, but simply his senses ceased. A dead

The reason is, A dormant mind cant activate the senses, But it needs energy from outer source to activate the Senses of the body in which it resides. This is because, body is a part of nature and not owned by the mind and so mind cant have control over the body.

The best example would be, A person driving a bike, can either start or stop or control the movement of the bike, but cant give initial energy that starts the bike. Likewise, the mind needs initial energy to activate the senses of the body and the initial energy by itself is not under the control of the Mind, because energy is a part of the 5 elements which are in noway controlled by the mind.

What is that initial energy?
As per Sri Ramanar, The 'thought' that "I am This Body" is the cause for all the other thoughts. When the Mind attaches itself with the body, It "Hears", "Feels", "Sees" etc. All that it senses are created by it, because it likes to see it that way. Seneses are Aids to the mind and body is the agent for Senses.

Again, As per Sri Ramanar, Mind is nothing but a bundle of thoughs (Just like a bundle of rope). The "I am this Body" , is the starting point of that rope and that thought by itself arouse from the Self. A mind attaches to the body because of the Senses instead of dissolving in the self.

Mind = Attachment to the body because of Senses.

If the senses are Cut, Mind still is attached to the body , but that body would not be of any use to the mind. Until the body dies naturally, the mind will remain DORMANT and cant interpret anything because there are no senses.

What would it be in the dormant State of the Mind
Just like an Orgasm cant be explained, Even this state cannot be explained. Orgasm atleast is a feeling of pleasure. But this state is Neither pleasure , Nor Pain.

It cant Smell, It Cant Hear, It Cant Feel, It cant Taste, It cant See, But it EXISTS!.

The above writing is just my own THOUGHTS. IT CAN BE WRONG AND KINDLY FORGIVE ME IF IF ITS WRONG

Lord Krishna About attachment in Men

2010-08-27T03:48:00.000-07:00

"Aharanidrabhayamaithunam ca samanyametat pasubhirnaranam
Dharmo hi tesamadhiko visesah dharmena hina pasubhissamanah"

Dharma that distinguishes human beings from animals. Without Dharma to guide him man would be no better than an animal."

Dhyayato visayan pumsah sangastesu pajayate

Sangat samjayate kamah kamat krodho bhijayate

Krodhad bhavati sammohah sammohat smrtivibhramah

Smrtibhramsad buddhinaso buddhinasat pranasyati

The Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita: "

When a man thinks of the objects of sense, attachment to them is born; from attachment arises desire; and from desire arises anger. Anger causes delusion and from delusion springs loss of memory; loss of memory leads to the destruction of the sense of discrimination; and because of the destruction of his sense of discrimination man perishes."

When the first thought of Objects of Sense Appears in Men?:
As per Mahabharata, Abhinayu heard of what Lord Krishna said on Chakravyuga. This Proves that The thought on senses appears to a living being, right from the fetus stage.

So:
Mind First thinks of the Senses, thereby attachment is Born and From attachment the Mind Desires and from there arises anger. Anger Causes the delusion of the mind which leads to loss of memory and thus leads to destruction.

Erwin Schrödinger & Upanishads & Vedanta

2010-08-27T03:00:00.000-07:00

Copied from http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/PVB/Harrison/DevelQM/DevelQM.html

You may recall the Schrödinger's Cat paradox, which was first published in its "scientific form" in 1935 in Zeitschrift der Physick. However in his 1925 essay he recounts an ancient Sankhya Hindu paradox that, jazzed up with some technology, became the cat paradox. In that original form the paradox was cast in the form of two people, one looking at a garden, the other in a dark room. The modern equivalent would be one person looking in the box to see if the cat is alive or dead, while a second person waits out in the hall. As we discussed, in this modern form the state "collapses" for the first person while it does not collapse for the second person.

In 1925 Schrõdinger resolved that paradox the way the Vedantists did: he asserted that all consciousness is one. As he wrote:

"But it is quite easy to express the solution in words, thus: the plurality [of viewpoints] that we perceive is only "an appearance; it is not real. Vedantic philosophy, in which this is a fundamental dogma, has sought to clarify it by a number of analogies, one of the most attractive being the many-faceted crystal which, while showing hundreds of little pictures of what is in reality a single existent object, does not really multiply the object."

Here is another fragment of that essay:

"... you may suddenly come to see, in a flash, the profound rightness of the basic conviction of Vedanta: ... knowledge, feeling and choice are essentially eternal and unchangeable and numerically one in all men, nay in all sensitive beings."

Do you think that Schrödinger had such a flash of insight? Is this the sort of insight which in the Eastern traditions is sometimes calledenlightenment?

Finally, Schrödinger himself makes an interesting analogy between Vedantic philosophy and modern physics:

"If finally we look back at that idea of Mach [that `the universe is not twice given'], we shall realize that it comes as near to the orthodox dogma of the Upanishads as it could possibly do without stating it expressis verbis. The external world and consciousness are one and the same thing."

Erwin Schrödinger (Source Wikipedia)

Erwin Rudolf Josef Alexander Schrödinger (German pronunciation: [ˈɛʁviːn ˈʃʁøːdɪŋɐ]; 12 August 1887, Erdberg – 4 January 1961, Vienna) was an Austriantheoretical physicist who was one of the fathers of quantum mechanics, and is famed for a number of important contributions to physics, especially theSchrödinger equation, for which he received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1933. In 1935, after extensive correspondence with personal friendAlbert Einstein, he proposed theSchrödinger's cat thought experiment.

5 Elements and the Body

2010-08-27T02:28:00.000-07:00

5 Elements and the Body (these are my own thoughts, it MAY be wrong)
Hunger is related to the Fire Element
Thirst is related to the Water Element
Praana or Oxygen is related to the Air Element
Ageing and growth (flesh,skin,nails etc) is related to the Earth.
Thought or mind can be related to space Element.

Mind And the Space (Space should be understood as Universe)
A) Both mind and space have no boundry
B) When mind is destroyed, space ceases to exist
C) Source of Mind as Per Advaita is the I thought which by itself will be traced back to Brahman. The Source of Space/universe should also be Brahman
D) Both Mind And Universe cant be explained scientifically regarding their origin.
E) Space is filled with Darkness , Mind is Filled with Ignorance

This Means
Space is related to Mind

For energy to be created, a body needs 4 elements, which created the need for water, air, fire, earth. For these elements to exist, there should be a space.

Simply Put,
Its the mind that creates the Space and Objects (objects=Matter+energy). When the mind is destroyed, everything dissolves into brahman.

What is Maya?.,
Its a force that makes the mind forget that it is the source of creation and the cause for all its sufferings, should be Maya.

If a body is seperated from mind, it soon disintegrates and merges with 5 elements. So body can never be seperated from Mind.
This would simply mean that, body has no purpose without the mind. If mind is removed (destroyed) , there is no need for a body and band thus the entire universe will cease to exist in the order they came into existence.
Just like the body is formed of 5 elements and dissolved into these elements, the 5 elements will dissolve in the order they were formed.

Plastic Surgery, Vedas and Hinduism

2010-08-25T21:46:00.000-07:00

Hindus were masters not only in Cosmology, but also medicine.

Ayurveda defines the Entire health problems associated to Human beings into 3

Kapa
Vaatha
Pitha

Now lets come to Plastic Surgery in Ayurveda

Source Wikipedia:

History

Walter Yeo, a British soldier, is often cited as the first known person to have benefited from plastic surgery. The photograph shows him before the procedure (left) and after (right) receiving a skin graft performed by SirHarold Gillies in 1917.

Reconstructive surgery techniques were being carried out in India by 2000 BC. Sushruta, considered the father of surgery, made important contributions to the field of plastic and cataract surgery in 6th century BC. The medical works of both Sushruta and Charak originally in Sanskrit were translated into Arabic language during the Abbasid Caliphate in 750 AD. The Arabic translations made their way into Europe via intermediaries. In Italy the Branca family ofSicily and Gaspare Tagliacozzi (Bologna) became familiar with the techniques of Sushruta.

British physicians traveled to India to see rhinoplasties being performed by native methods. Reports on Indian rhinoplasty performed by a Kumhar vaidya were published in the Gentleman's Magazine by 1794. Joseph Constantine Carpue spent 20 years in India studying local plastic surgery methods. Carpue was able to perform the first major surgery in the Western world by 1815. Instruments described in the Sushruta Samhita were further modified in the Western world.

Yajnavalkya and Hindu Days in A Year

2010-08-24T06:48:00.000-07:00

Yajnavalkya of Mithila (c. 9th–8th century BC) composed the astronomical text Shatapatha Brahmana, where recognized that the Earth is spherical and believed that the Sun was "the centre of the spheres" as described in the Vedas at the time.
Based on this heliocentric model, he proposes a 95-year cycle to synchronize the motions of the Sun and the Moon, which gives the average length of the tropical year as 365.24675 days, which is only 6 minutes longer than the modern value of 365.24220 days. (Copied from http://sunlight.orgfree.com/ancient_hindu_astronomy.htm)

Hindu Concept of Sun

2010-08-24T06:33:00.000-07:00

The below article is Copied from http://sunlight.orgfree.com/ancient_hindu_astronomy.htm

a) The Sun was considered as being at the center of the solar system (cf Markandeya Purana, 106. 41).

b) The Vedic text Aitareya Brahmana (c. 9th–8th century BC) declares:
“The Sun does never set nor rise. When people think the Sun is setting (it is not so). For after having arrived at the end of the day it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making night to what is below and day to what is on the other side…Having reached the end of the night, it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making day to what is below and night to what is on the other side. In fact, the Sun never sets….”

c) "The sun is stationed for all time, in the middle of the day. [...] Of the sun, which is always in one and the same place, there is neither setting nor rising." - Vishnu Purana

The Indian astronomers went even further, giving a physical reason for how the dual star or binary motion might allow the rise and fall of human consciousness to occur. They said that the Sun (with the Earth and other planets) traveled along its set orbital path with its companion start, it would cyclically move close to, then away from, a point in space referred to as Vishnunabhi, a supposed magnetic center or "grand center". In his system, dharma increases as we approach Vishnunabhi and decreases as we draw away from it. The cycle of yugas takes place twice in each 24,000 year revolution. As the sun recedes from Vishnunabhi, the ages pass in the usual order: Satya, Treta, Dvapara, Kali. As the sun approaches Vishnunabhi, the ages pass in the opposite order: Kali, Dvapara, Treta, Satya.

Sayana (c. 1315-1387), was a minister in the court of King Bukka I of the Vijayanagar Empire in South India. In his commentary on the 4th verse of the hymn 1.50 of the Rig Veda on the sun, he says:
Tatha cha smaryate yojananam sahasre dve dve shate dve cha yogane ekena nimishardhena kramamana namo ‘stu ta iti
Thus it is remembered: O Sun, bow to you, you who travers 2,202 yojanas in half a minute.
The Puranas define 1 nimesha to be equal to 16/75 seconds. 1 yojana is about 9 miles.
2,202 yojanas x 9 miles x 75 - 8 nimeshas = 185,794 m.p.s.
Basically, Sayana is saying that sunlight travels at 186,000 miles per second! How could a Vedic scholar who died in 1387 A.D. have known the correct figure for the speed of light?
Sayana’s statement was printed in 1890 in the famous edition of Rig Veda edited by Max Muller, the German Sanskrit scholar.

Yajnavalkya of Mithila (c. 9th–8th century BC) composed the astronomical text Shatapatha Brahmana, where recognized that the Earth is spherical and believed that the Sun was "the centre of the spheres" as described in the Vedas at the time.

In Shatapatha Brahmana (8.7.3.10) he states: "The sun strings these worlds - the earth, the planets, the atmosphere - to himself on a thread." He recognized that the Sun was much larger than the Earth, which would have influenced this early heliocentric concept. He also accurately measured the relative distances of the Sun and the Moon from the Earth as 108 times the diameters of these heavenly bodies, close to the modern measurements of 107.6 for the Sun and 110.6 for the Moon.
The distance between the earth and the sun is approximately 108 times the sun's diameter. The diameter of the sun is about 108 times the earth's diameter. And the distance between the earth and the moon is 108 times the moon's diameter.

The above para, also proves that the gravity theory is false. Because, he having this much knowledge, might also have held that Earth also strings the moon ., which would prove of gravity (as stringing)

Speed of Light - Vedic Astronomy

2010-08-24T06:17:00.000-07:00

This content is copied from http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Cosmology.htm

Speed of Light:
One such book is the celebrated commentary on the Rig Veda by Sayana (c. 1315-1387), a minister in the court of King Bukka I of the Vijayanagar Empire in South India. In his commentary on the 4^th verse of the hymn 1.50 of the Rig Veda on the sun, he says:
Tatha cha smaryate yojananam sahasre dve dve shate dve cha yogane ekena nimishardhena kramamana namo ‘stu ta iti
Thus it is remembered: O Sun, bow to you, you who travers 2,202 yojanas in half a minute.
The Puranas define 1 nimesha to be equal to 16/75 seconds. 1 yojana is about 9 miles. Substituting in Sayana’s statement we get 186,000 per second.
Sayana’s statement was printed in 1890 in the famous edition of Rig Veda edited by Max Muller, the German Sanskritist . He claimed to have used several three or four hundred year old manuscripts of Sayana’s commentary, written much before the time of Romer. Further support for the genuineness of the figure in the ancient book comes from one of the earliest Puranas, the Vayu, conservatively dated to at least 1,500 years old. The Puranas speak of the creation and destruction of the universe in cycles of 8.64 billion years, that is quite close to currently accepted value regarding the time of the big bang.
(source: The Wishing Tree - By Subhash Kak p. 75 - 77).

More from the site:
"Modern physics has thus revealed that every subatomic particle not only performs an energy dance, but also is an energy dance; a pulsating process of creation and destruction. The dance of Shiva is the dancing universe, the ceaseless flow of energy going through an infinite variety of patterns that melt into one another’’.

Expansion And Contraction of Universe - By Carl Sagan

2010-08-24T06:08:00.001-07:00

"The Hindu religion is the only one of the world's great faiths dedicated to the idea that the Cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite, number of deaths and rebirths. It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang. And there are much longer time scales still."
"The most elegant and sublime of these is a representation of the creation of the universe at the beginning of each cosmic cycle, a motif known as the cosmic dance of Lord Shiva. The god, called in this manifestation Nataraja, the Dance King. In the upper right hand is a drum whose sound is the sound of creation. In the upper left hand is a tongue of flame, a reminder that the universe, now newly created, with billions of years from now will be utterly destroyed."
(source: Cosmos - By Carl Sagan Random House ISBN 0375508325 p. 213-214).

I copied the above from http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Cosmology.htm

More Points from the site: http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Cosmology.htm
a) The Surya Siddhanta, a textbook on astronomy of ancient India - last compiled in 1000 BC, believed by Hindus to be handed down from 3000 BC by aid of complex mnemonic recital methods still known today - computed the earth's diameter to be 7,840 miles, the distance earth - moon as 253,000 miles. These compare to modern measurements resp. as 7,926.7 miles and 252,710 miles for max. dist. moon-earth.

b)Brihath Sathaka operates with divisions of the time of one day into:- 60 kalas or ghatika - 24 mins each. Subdivided into 60 vikala (24 secs.each) 60 para then into tatpara, then into vitatpara then into ima then into kasha.... the smallest unit, equal to approx. o.ooooooo3 of a second (one 300 millionth). This smallest unit (3 X 10 -8 second) is surprisingly close to the life-spans of certain mesons and hyperons, according to some Western physicist who was interviewed on the BBC World Service in the early 1990s.
The 14th century 'Rigveda of the Sun' (dated by manuscript age only), says that the sun covers 2,202 yoganas in half a mimesa - which calculates as 300,000 metres a second, fairly exactly the speed of light.
(source: Science, the Critical mind and Dissent - By Robert C Priddy).

Who Wrote the Vedas?

2010-08-24T05:45:00.000-07:00

The Below post is copied from answers.yahoo.com

Who wrote the vedas hindu hinduism scriptures? How did they form or come about in writting?

Who wrote them on paper? Who was inspired to write the vedas?

Asked by a person at: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091230001951AAuVyfL

For which an Excellant answer from Krishna किंकर Arya

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

Did anybody write the Vedas?
No,
Actually essence of Vedas was also present before the creation of this universe. The question should be, "when were they gifted to mankind?"
Actually Rishis didn't tell all Shlokas in a single time. They frequently kept telling them to their successors. First of all they materialized them in their hearts after a lot of Tapasya and then rendered to mankind.

According to the Bible, the history of mankind is 8000 years old. Therefore it has become the religious duty of western Veda researchers to determine the Veda’s age within this time. That is why the most of them and their Indian puppets decide Vedas birth time between 3500 years and 4000 years ago.

But As I said before Vedic Shlokas were not written on one place. They were added when Rishis appeared them in their hearts.

In Kalpa Sootra(Vivah Prakranam), there comes a sentence "Dhruva iv sthiraa bhava". On this German astrologer Jacobi wrote, "in the beginning the pole star was brighter than today." and this condition was about 4600 years ago.So even these Sootras are of that time.

On the time of Alexander, Greek scholar gathered the genealogy of Indian dynasties. At that time They had succeeded to get the record of 154 dynasties those had ruled for 6547 years authentically and Vedas were more ancient than them so. This took the age of Vedas between 8000 to 10000 years.

Lokmanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak didn't follow the previous researchers blindfold and made his own research. According to him in Aitarey or Shatpatha Brahmin Scriptures, stars were calculated with Kritika. That time days and night were equal (Vernal Equinox) on Kritika and now on Ashwini. According to astrology this change took place about 4500 years ago. So even Brahmin scriptures were before 4500 years ago. On the time of Mantra Samhita this calculation were done with MrigShira and condition is about 6500 years ago. So his research proves that some of Shlokas were written or given between 4500 years to 10000 years.
Narayan Bhavaniraav Pawage, the famous archaeologist also told Vedas are 9000 years old.

Dr. Sampoornanand wrote a book named "Aryon ka adi desh"( The eternal country of Aryans). He gave their ancient land a name that was "SaptSindhawa".And where there was this place, today there is Kashmir valley, Rajashthan and some part of UP.At that time Himalayan was raising from the ocean, that is why mountains were not stable and lots of quakes used to affect the earth. This condition was vividly described by Aryans in this way,” Humans! the one who stabled this vibrating earth, and placated these angry mountains and made motionless this Dyoloka, is Indra".(Rig-Veda)
Accord. to archaeologists, these unstable conditions were found between 25000 years to 50000 years ago and this condition was seen by the Aryans. So some of mantras are about 50000 to 25000 years old.

Some of Mantra gives the description of two seas in east and west while more ancient Shlokas give the vivid description of four seas. And these seas were around the land of Aryans where Vyas and Satluj River would mingle. Imperial Gazetteer of India (part 1) gave this ocean name Rajpootana Sea. IT was expanded in the south-east of Aravali Mountains. Still there are some lakes of salt water (Sambhar Lake) and the layers of salt prove that the area was devoured in "Rajpootana Sea".
And the fourth sea was present near Iran called "Asian Mediterranean Sea". Both of them have vanished when they mingled in European Mediterranean Sea. Still there are some signs of that sea in the form of black sea, Caspian Sea, Sea of Aral, Lake Balkash.All were once the Northern sea. Aryans gave description of all these seas because they were present that time and they used to do trade around them. According to archaeologists, these seas were present between 750000 to 50000 years ago. So some mantras are between those times.

According to Sanskrit Literature, we have come to know that Rig-Veda had 21 branches but today we have only one named "Shakal Samhita".Altogether all Vedas had 1131 branches out of them we have only eleven and half branches.
1)Rigveda:-Shakal Samhita.
2)Krishna Yajurveda:-Taitareeya, Maitrayini and Kath.
3)Shukla " " :- Maadhyandin and Kanwa
4)Saamveda :-Kouthum, Ranayani, Jaimineeya
5)Atharwaveda :-Shounak and Paippalaad.

Also the Kath Kapishthil Samhita (half) (from Krishna Yajurveda) was found and published. So we can't exactly find out when those unfound Samhitas came into the existence for mankind.

And these are the ages of Mantras (between 4500 to 75000 years old) determined by many Vedas researchers astrologically, geographically and astronomically.

But we should not entangle ourselves in the questions like “when they were given to mankind by the great Rishis?” or “What is the age of Vedas?” But we should read them and understand their essence that is Swatantra Sachchidananda ParBrahma Parmeshwara.

Meaning of the Vedas:-
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Veda word came from the Sanskrit Dhatu "विद्"(Vid). In Letin, it was adopted as "Videre". English word "Vision" is also came from "Videre".
It means "Vision" or "Philosophy".

Veda gives their meaning as, "The Voice and Vision(Vaak ) received by Rishis in Samadhi and given to the common people is Vedas"

"Veda came from the Yagya of conciousness with Hom when that omnipresent determined to do so"

Brihaadaaranykopnishad called the "Breath of God".

In Pralaya, they remains undefined by language, I mean only their essence remains and when this universe comes into existence, they are given to creator Brahmaa.
Shwetaashwataropnishad,
"Yo Brahmaanam Vidashaati pooram yo vai vedaancha Prahinotti tasmai"
"Parmeshwara(God) who creates the creator Brahma in the beginning of this universe sends the Vedas for him for his creation."

Famous Bhashyakaar Sayanacharya wrote,
"Pratyakshaanumityaa va yastoopaayo na budhyate,
anam vidanti veden tasmaad vedasya vedata "

Vedas have the Vedatwa(Vision) to show Upay (here God) that is unaccessible by body and thoughts.

In ManuSmriti:-
"Bhootam Bhavyam Bhavishyam cha sarvam Vedaatprasiddhyati"

Past prestent and future, these three were known by humanity with the help of Vedas.

In Short:-

Vedas are the spiritual, religious and practical guide for Hindus

http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/ind…

8 months ago

Vedas , Cosmology and Creation of this Universe:

2010-08-24T03:35:00.000-07:00

I am not well versed in the Holy Vedas (of hinduism, which i believe)., But based on some readings on several sites, i came across this one Particular URL:
http://www.ignca.nic.in/ps_02007.htm

COPIED FROM http://www.ignca.nic.in/ps_02007.htm

The cosmological ideas in Vedas can thus be summarised as:

1. In the beginning there was neither the non-existent nor the existent.

2. The Supreme cosmogonic force by the sheer Will to produce the universe first in the form of darkness enveloped in darkness.

3. The cosmological waters ambhas got manifested next in the form of undifferentiated fluid in darkness where there was no light whatsoever.

4. From the cosmic waters, combined with the motivation to move and probably as a consequencce of the friction, fire called arka got generated.

5. Due to the action of the fire and water, wind was produced and the combination of wind, fire and water produced a froth which got solidified subsequently to form the earth.

6. The Supreme Brahman who is like an uplifted thunderbolt, makes the entire universe to emerge and to move. Thus the cosmic fluid originates due to the motion induced by the Will of the Supreme Soul moves the undifferentiated atoms into an undifferentiated cloud of dark fluid which because of the friction of motion attains heat and gives rise to the cosmic earth (the cosmic egg or the embryonic state of the universe), which is the protostar of the modern concept of cosmogony. The further motion of the cosmic fluid along with the cosmic earth produced the ekapada aja, the sun. The sun is the Pr¡¸a and from this Pr¡¸a the Paµcabh£tas originated.

The specific contributions by Vedas to the cosmogony, in superiority to the most modern cosmological concepts, thus include: (a) The concept of non-existent and non-non-existent state simultaneously; (b) The Supreme Will which motivated the non-differentiated atoms to combine to get differentiated into various forms like the nebula - ambhas; the frictional fire - arka; the protostar - cosmic earth (brahm¡¸·a) and finally the sun which is the pr¡¸a which differentiated the paµcamah¡bh£tas.

In spite of the unprecedented advancements in the science and technology, we are still as enlightened as the Vedic seers and their philosophical idea -

iyaÆ vis¤Àtiryata ¡babh£va yadi v¡ dadhe yadi v¡ na A

yo'sy¡dhyakÀaÅ parame vyoman so a´ga veda yadi v¡ na veda AA

(]ÎV, X.129)

Where from has this cosmogony come; who is its chief architect? whether he knows or not - is still as valid and as beautiful as when it was composed.

What not does the Hindu culture have in it?. VEDAS ARE REALLY A GREAT SOURCE OF INFORMATION

Adharvana Veda (Atharva Veda) On Earth:
Philosophical excursions are found in books 8-12. One of the most spectacular expressions of philosophical thought is seen in the hymn XII.I, the Hymn to goddess Earth or the Pṛthivī Sūkta used in the Āgrayana rite. The foundations of VaiṣeśikaDarśana is expressed in the mantra XII.1.26 in which the 'atoms' (Pāṃsu) are described forming the stone, the stones agglutinating to form the rocks and the rocks held together to form the Earth. Early pantheistic thought is seen in the hymn X.7 that describes the common thread running through all manifest and non-manifest existence as theskaṃbha. This skaṃbha is described as what poured out of the Hiraṇyagarbha, that was the precursor of the complex world in a very simple form (X.7.28). (Hiraṇyagarba = " The golden womb from which the Universe was formed.") This Skambha is Indra and Indra is the Skambha which describes all existence. The hymn also describes a pantheistic nature of the Vedic gods (X.7.38): skaṃbha is the heat (tapaḥ) that spreads through the universe (Bhuvana) as waves of water; the units of this spreading entity are the gods even as branches of one tree. This theme is repeatedly presented in various interpretations in later Hindu philosophies. (Source ---> Wikipedia)

Birth Of Moon

2010-08-18T04:26:00.000-07:00

The Moon Certainly could not have sprang from earth. Science says, that earth was a glowing ball of gases . The moon could have been a separation of lighter gases from the core which formed the earth.

But it certainly could not have been formed due to a crash. Because a big crash like that would have either stopped the earth from spinning or the earth would have moved out of its orbit around sun.

But why the moon revolves around the earth?.
Moon revolves because its spinning, whether the earth is there or not, moon will revolve.

Are time and space are inextricably linked?

2010-08-16T04:59:00.000-07:00

instein's major insight was that time and space are inextricably linked. - Source: http://plus.maths.org/content/spinning-space

The exception to the Validity of SPACETIME theory is:
SPACETIME THEORY IS FALSE

Time cant be felt or seen , but only defined based on the three tenses (Present , past, Future). In short, time can be felt only with Change.

so , If as per Einstein's theory, Time and space are inextricably linked, Space is directly linked with Change TOO!

THIS MEANS, THAT CHANGE GAVE BIRTH TO TIME, AND THERE WAS A BEFORE AND AFTER IN THIS UNIVERSE.

For change to happen in this universe,
1) First there should be Space
2) Second there should be objects (Mass OR GAS OR WHATEVER) which are the reasons for change
3) Third there MUST BE change in these objects and(or) space which gives birth to time.

What caused these Space + Objects?. (Thatz something that cant be explained. BUT ITS CERTAINLY NOT BIGBANG)

We can start from Space + Objects.

Assume that Space is Constant and not Changing. Then Space Cant be Linked with Time, Because there no change that will happen in space. Then what creates time? IT IS The CHANGING NATURE OF OBJECTS that GIVES BIRTH TO TIME.

CONCLUSION:
TIME AND OBJECTS ARE inextricably linked IN SPACE. OBJECTS CAN NEVER DISAPPEAR , BUT CHANGES ITS FORM AS TIME TICKS.

What Causes planets to Spin? - Part 2

2010-08-16T04:31:00.000-07:00

When you rotate a coin, It will create an axis of its own and revolve in a circular motion. The same is happening with the earth. Whether or not the sun is there, the earth will revolve in a circular form.

But A Planet needs energy to spin itself, This energy must be from the sun. The farther the earth moves away from the sun, the lower will be the spin of the earth. That will reduce the revolving nature of the earth around the sun and May gradually cause a crash of the earth against the SUN or it may move out of the solar system as a dead rock.

Also See:

What Causes planets to Spin?

Solar System Rotates around another Bigger System

The world does not have life

What Causes planets to Spin?

2010-08-13T06:45:00.000-07:00

The world spins which are the reason for the day and night changes that we see. But what causes this world to spin?.

Simply put,
The Planets have to Spin to revolve around the sun. It can be said as the law of the universe. For example, If we spin a coin on the floor, it wont be in its same position. It will rotate in the direction its rotated (either clockwise or anticlockwise). It wont spin in a straight line. Likewise a planet to maintain its own axis has to rotate.

But what caused the Initial Spin and the reason for revolving around the sun?. Why not go away from the sun?
The general theory is that the particles that formed the earth were spinning?.
But what if there is an exception?.

As per wikipedia:

Earth's rotation is the rotation of the solid Earth around its own axis. The Earth rotates towards the east. As viewed from the North Star Polaris, the Earth turns counter-clockwise.

But where is east, west north south in this universe?. How can one pinpoint these in this universe?.

From wikipedia:

Origin

It is theorized that Earth formed as part of the birth of the Solar System: what eventually became the solar system initially existed as a large, rotating cloud of dust, rocks, and gas. It was composed of hydrogen and helium produced in the Big Bang, as well as heavier elements ejected by supernovas. As this interstellar dust is inhomogeneous, any asymmetry during gravitational accretion results in the angular momentum of the eventual planet. The current rotation period of the Earth is the result of this initial rotation and other factors, including tidal friction and the hypothetical impact of Theia.

This means that,
First the sun is formed

The question here is:
a) How come rotating objects and gas from different direction , later formed as planets started to rotate in a particular Direction?.

Contribution by Indians - Part 1

2010-08-13T03:25:00.000-07:00

Madhava of Sangamagrama

Copied From:

http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Biographies/Madhava.html

Madhava of Sangamagramma was born near Cochin on the coast in the Kerala state in southwestern India. It is only due to research into Keralese mathematics over the last twenty-five years that the remarkable contributions of Madhava have come to light.

Jyesthadeva describes Madhava's series as follows:-

The first term is the product of the given sine and radius of the desired arc divided by the cosine of the arc. The succeeding terms are obtained by a process of iteration when the first term is repeatedly multiplied by the square of the sine and divided by the square of the cosine. All the terms are then divided by the odd numbers 1, 3, 5, .... The arc is obtained by adding and subtracting respectively the terms of odd rank and those of even rank. It is laid down that the sine of the arc or that of its complement whichever is the smaller should be taken here as the given sine. Otherwise the terms obtained by this above iteration will not tend to the vanishing magnitude.

No.	Series	Name	Western discoverers of the series and approximate dates of discovery
1	sin x = x − x³ / 3! + x⁵ / 5! − x⁷ / 7! + ...	Madhava's sine series	Issac Newton (1670) and Wilhelm Leibnitz (1676)
2	cos x = 1 − x² / 2! + x⁴ / 4! − x⁶ / 6! + ...	Madhava's cosine series	Issac Newton (1670) and Wilhelm Leibnitz (1676)
3	tan⁻¹x = x − x³ / 3 + x⁵ / 5 − x⁷ / 7 + ...	Madhava's series for arctangent	James Gregory (1671) and Wilhelm Leibnitz (1676)
4	π / 4 = 1 − 1 / 3 + 1 / 5 − 1 / 7 + ...	Madhava's formula for π	James Gregory (1671) and Wilhelm Leibnitz (1676)

Does Science Really Help?

2010-08-12T23:13:00.000-07:00

This is a part 2 of the article posted here: http://theoryofexception.blogspot.com/2010/08/science-helps-this-world.html
Society before 100 Years

Good Air
Good Water
Good Land

The growth of Scientific inventions should have improved this to:

Pure Air
Pure Water
Pure Land

Have we achieved this?

What we get:
a)Luxury items to help improve the Luxury of the People.
b) Atomic Weapons.

The welfare based medicines (Which also comes after testing on Animals :( ) can just be termed byproducts. Even these medicines , when they expire, become poisons.

It cannot be denied that Scientists and Inventors have a Noble Thought. But the products that science delivers mostly are aimed at commercial usage.

Currently Reading

2010-08-12T21:45:00.000-07:00

The Myth of Saint Thomas and the Mylapore Shiva Temple

Read the Book Here

"o lord of mylapore temple, situated on the shores of the Raging Sea - Arunagirinathar"

Nature Of a devotee

2010-08-12T04:21:00.000-07:00

Who is a devotee?.
Everyone , who are praying God, thinks they are devotees. But who is a true devotee?

First lets see this teaching from Sri Ramanar:

1 . Who am I ?
The gross body which is composed of the seven humours (dhatus), I am not; the five cognitive sense organs, viz. the senses of hearing, touch, sight, taste, and smell, which apprehend their respective objects, viz. sound, touch, colour, taste, and odour, I am not; the five cognitive sense-organs, viz. the organs of speech, locomotion, grasping, excretion, and procreation, which have as their respective functions speaking, moving, grasping, excreting, and enjoying, I am not; the five vital airs, prana, etc., which perform respectively the five functions of in-breathing, etc., I am not; even the mind which thinks, I am not; the nescience too, which is endowed only with the residual impressions of objects, and in which there are no objects and no functioning's, I am not.

How is this related to Devotion? as it looks like an advaita concept. Advaita is a age old concept existing from the times of Sri Rama and Sri Krishna and even before that. Readers of Ashta vakra Gita Knows it.

Who is a True Devotee of God:
A) A devotee, Always thinks of God., Thus bodily attachment will be limited. A best example would be Sri Nandanar, Sri Kannappar or Sri Ramadasar or Sri Pattinathar.

b) They wont have materialistic desire when they become a devotee.

c) They wont care for money or fame.

d) Their only aim is to realise god.

e) A devotee will face several sufferings (due to Karma) and also some tests by god (to show their true devotion and vairaagyam to this world, so that ordinary people like us wont think that our belief is devotion)

Who is a Believer?

a) A believer (Like Me and most of the people living in this world) is the one who will pray god for forgiveness.

b) A believer MAY also be a sinner.

c) A believer prays god, because he wants to escape from the thought of wrong doing (Kutra Unarchi).

d) A believer will believe in god as long as his materialistic desires are fulfilled. (Ofcourse, its because of his Karma, But he will think that god has showered his blessings on him)

How a Devotee Will Sing?

Oh Dear God, How lucky are the people who lived along with true devotees. We current humans are not even lucky to have that blessings.

How to Get True Devotion?
Pray to god. Thats the only way.
Oh god, Please give me the devotion that the Nayanmaars and Azhwars had.

Solar System Rotates around another Bigger System

2010-08-11T04:06:00.000-07:00

The Earth and Other Planets Rotates Around the Sun

WHAT IF, THE ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM ROTATES AROUND A BIGGER PLANET?

Circular motion is the Law of this Universe., For Mass to Get Energy, it MUST FOLLOW A circular Motion around a Bigger Planet. Failing woud result in Destruction of the planet and all life in it.

The Initial Energy that the Planets get which enables them to follow a circular motion Must BE from a Higher Being (This might represented by Lord vishnu and his Rotating Chakra, ).

ENERGY + MASS = LIFE
(Read My previous post on "The world Does not Have Life"

Gravity Is it Real?

2010-08-11T03:09:00.000-07:00

Theory of Gravity
Gravitation Do exist - A Known Fact

Excpetion to this would be:
Gravity Does not Exist:

From Wikipedia:

In everyday life, gravitation is most familiar as the agent that gives weight to objects with mass and causes them to fall to the ground when dropped.

Gavity, gravitation, gravitational attraction, gravitational force ((physics) the force of attraction between all masses in the universe; especially the attraction of the earth's mass for bodies near its surface) "the more remote the body the less the gravity"; "the gravitation between two bodies is proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them"; "gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love"--Albert Einstein - Source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=gravity

ROTATION OF THE EARTH AND THE MASS OF THE WORLD
Does it mean that:
a) Gravitational Force Increases, when an external mass Hits the world (Like a Big Astroid) ?
b) When the Mass Increases The Gravitational force of that Mass would Increase?
C) Does all the Mass in the world + The mass of the World together contribute to the earth's Gravitational force or is it the earth Alone that has the gravitational Force?.
d) If 2 masses (Of equal size and weight) fly in space , What will attract what?.

Simply Put,
The Circular Motion of the planets (Planets rotating themselves) is solely responsible for the objects in that planet to stick onto that planet. Further, the circular motion of the planet around the SUN is the Main factor which enables the planet to rotate themselves.

The Circular Motion of the Planets around the Sun also enables them To get energy from the SUN. (See, The world does not have Life).

Mass CANT have a gravitational Force by itself. Its the Circular Motion of the mass that creates an external Force which attracts objects to itself.

So As per the Theory of Exception GRAVITY IS A MYTH AND DOES NOT EXIST

The world Pulls external objects because of its Circular Motion., And not because of gravitational Force, The circular Motion, Creates an ENERGY (Might Be something like Wind Energy), which attracts all outside objects to it and also the same force enables the objects present inside to stick to the world.

Image source : Wikipedia

Where are the Devotees?

2010-08-09T04:35:00.000-07:00

Just like any rule has exception, I see believers have created a set of rules by themselves:

1) Religion forgives sinners who joins their religion
2) All are sinners those who do not follow their religion

One thing is for sure,
There are somethings above Belief., Its called Devotion.

Devotion is not belief. All believers are not devotees!.

Devotion is like Mother's Love. Belief is nothing before Devotion.

Even sinners ( I mean the true sinners and not those who are seen as sinners just because they dont follow a religion), believe in god.

My take on religion would be:
Religion will not take us to heaven or god. Believing in religion will never help us reach God.

From a believers View:
There are 2 types of devotees
A) A good man free from sins and who does his duty is a devotee (Even if he is an atheist).
B) A devotee is the one who does his duties and prays god with utmost devotion. Just like a mother takes care of her child with pure love, a devotee sees god with utmost affection.

SO next time,
Before Preaching others to follow a religion, Kindly BE A TRUE DEVOTEE.

There is not even a single living devotee i have come across (Including me ).

A believer is no different from one who does not believe in god.

Science Helps this World

2010-08-07T22:54:00.000-07:00

The exception to this would be:

a) Science Does not help this world
b) Science helps some but not all

The world as we saw 100 years before and as we see now has changed a lot., Ofcourse, its not in a good way

1) There are more pollution than before
2) No good water, No good air, Even the land that we live is polluted.

What is the reason for this? The only reason is Science.

1)Science of course, have done good in the form of medicines that saves lives., But at the same time, Animal testing is something that should be Banned. Every being has the right to live! and animal testing devoids that right.

2)Scientific inventions are SOLELY done to improve luxury of the people. All the latest technologies., are created, all the weapons are created only to improve the luxury of a few people. People never get satisfied with the luxuries they get, which results in the technologies being upgraded (More wastage)

Wastage Leads to Destruction of the Future Generation, Pollution and More Environment Hazards.

The best example for Scientific destruction (invention) would be Petroleum, floride and Atomic weapons, Plastic.

The air we breathe,
The water we drink
The land we live

Is polluted only because of Scientific inventions which improves the luxury of a few people.

Did India Ruled America?

2010-08-07T10:55:00.000-07:00

Copied from India's Conquest of the Americas
http://www.viewzone.com/gene.india.html

The Vedas tell a number of valid facts about ancient America . They call Mexico and Central America Patala. In Sanskrit, Patala means 'one of the seven regions under the earth and the abode of serpents' According to the myths, an eagle named Garuda transported thousands of ancient mariners, called snakes (Nagas, there in its beak. Although I feel they came here in ocean-going ships, the implication is clear that they could have flown here as well. The legends of the O'odhams of Arizona describe such a sky-born ship. They call it Nah-Big, a term definitely derived from the Sanskrit Nag-Bhaga or Snake God. One cannot help but become impressed when he reads the O'odham stories of the Nah-Big. It is clear that it was some kind of flying ship. The O'odhams even speak of it as being propelled by an energy generator having positive (male) and (female) female poles.

According to Hindu legends, a naga could turn into a human being. In Mexico, a nagual was a were-animal. Nagual derived from the Sanskrit Nag-Baal, meaning Snake Demon.

The Mayans of Mexico and Central America also played an integral part in Hindu mythology and history. Just as in Mexico and Central America, they were mathematicians (measurers), astronomers, military strategists, magicians, wise-men and builders. The Meso--American Mayan's knowledge of astronomy and time-measurement was so accurate that they even felt confident enough to predict the end of the world--or some worldwide catastrophic cosmic event -- in 2012 AD. The Mayans of India also predicted the same type of event, but they didnÕt agree with their Patalan brothers on the same date.

In his book, Remedy the Frauds in Hinduism, Indian historian Purushothoma Chon mentioned a Siberian origin of the Mayans: 'Maya architects are mentioned in our epic Mahabharata. Maya people are in Siam and East Asia . There is a place called Mayyava in Kerala. The Utttar Pradesh people have the meaning of Mayya as mother in phrases like 'Gang ki Maya.' There is a vast area in Russian East Siberia as well as a river by name Maya.' (p. 28.) The Nagas of Tibet even had a similar bar and dot counting system, along with the same words, to the Naga Mayas of Mexico.

Noah's Arc

2010-08-07T10:31:00.000-07:00

I had the doubt on Noah's arc, because i heard of a similar story like it in hinduism (related to Lord vishnu) and i was searching in google using the keyword "Noah's arc hinduism" and landed in this page

I was also confused on the Jesus birth story, I heard the same story in hinduism (Lord Krishna's story) & Horus story too was similar to it and happened before Jesus story. I was searching google related to it and found this:
http://www.holysmoke.org/hs00/xianity.htm

The below para is copied from the site: http://www.holysmoke.org/hs00/xianity.htm

Christianity is an amalgam of pagan religions, picking the most successful features from each.

As to the early writers and the question of myth consider the following;

Adonis born pre 2000 BC of virgin Astarte, for whom the spring festival of rebirth, Eastros was named, called both God the Father and Son, Crucified to save mankind and then resurrected.

Horus born 1550 BC of virgin Isis (Egyptian name for Astarte) received gifts from 3 kings, was crucified on cross, many other similarities to Jesus story.

Krishna born 1200 BC of virgin Devake, (angelic voice announced his birth to her) in a cave, (early Christian writings claimed Jesus born in cave, not manger) heralded by a bright star, while foster father in city to pay taxes, evil king Kansa tried to kill savior by ordering slaughter of all male children, visited by wise men with gifts, many sayings and teachings similar or identical to Jesus' teachings, performed many miracles and was crucified.

Indra born 725 BC of virgin, walked on water, other miracles, similar teachings, crucified-nailed to cross.

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Likewise, the below content is copied from the site: http://www.viewzone.com/noah.story.html

Did the Hindus Help Write the Bible
and Give the Ancient Mexicans Their Religious Traditions?

The Jewish Noah's Ark legend appears to be a mixture of three Hindu flood myths: Satyavarman, Vaivasvata, and Nahusha. The Mahabharata states:

"The progeny of Adamis and Hevas (Adam and Eve) soon became so wicked that they were no longer able to coexist peacefully. Brahma therefore decided to punish his creatures "Vishnu" [right] ordered Vaivasvata to build a ship for himself and his family. When the ship was ready, and Vaivasvata and his family were inside with the seeds of every plant and a pair of every species of animal, the big rains began and the rivers began to overflow."

Not only are the names of the main players in the Noah story the same as the family of Satyavarman, but, like the Vaivasvata part that the Old Testament authors plagiarized from the Mahabharata, the rains fell for forty days and forty nights.

Surprised?
See More Similarities here: http://www.viewzone.com/etymology.html
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Brahma and Abraham

In Hinduism, Brahma is believed to be the father of the worlds, while his wife Saraswati is belived to be the mother of the worlds. Likewise, in Judaism, Abraham is believed to be the father of the nations, while Sarai is believed to be the mother of the nations. The etymological connection between Abraham and Brahma, and between Sarai and Saraswati, has already been recognized by historians.

The connection does not end there, however. Brahma's second wife Gayatri is portrayed as Keturah, Abraham's second wife, in Jewish Bible. G changed to K, and with vowel adjustments, Gayatri changed to Keturah. Hagar, the handmaiden of Sarai, is the same as the tributary of river Saraswati, the river by name Ghaggar in India! Ghaggar/Hagar -- the resemblance is overwhelming -- it is just that consonant G has been replaced by consonant H when the word traveled over, because H and G belong to same consonant batch. And the relations Hagar/Ghaggar have with Sarai/Saraswati are quite revealing in themselves.

Ghaggar is a tributary to river Saraswati and this relation of being tributary is being described as that of handmaiden. Saraswati is the mighty river and Ghaggar is small tributary to it. Similarly, Sarai is the real mistress holding all the powers while Hagar is just handmaiden under her. Not just these, the entire Hindu pantheon, right to the Vedic Gods, is listed out there, in the most prominent section of the Bible! What is the Hindu pantheon doing in the most prominent section of the Bible?

Christ and Khristos

The word Christ originated from Greek Khristos, meaning 'anointed' (as Savior). And where did Khristos originate from? Linguists are normally silent on this, despite an overwhelming similarity between words Khristos and Krishna, the latter referring to the Savior of Indians.

Given that both Christ and Krishna are considered as crucified saviors by Christ specialists, given that both the words Krishna and Khristos carry the meaning of being Savior, and considering that both are almost similar words, I am surprised that the etymological derivation has not been made until now.

"One of the shrines in the Kaaba was also dedicated to the Hindu Creator God, Brahma, which is why the illiterate prophet of Islam claimed it was dedicated to Abraham. The word "Abraham" is none other than a malpronunciation of the word Brahma. This can be clearly proven if one investigates the root meanings of both words. Abraham is said to be one of the oldest Semitic prophets. His name is supposed to be derived from the two Semitic words 'Ab' meaning 'Father' and 'Raam/Raham' meaning 'of the exalted.' In the book of Genesis, Abraham simply means 'Multitude.' The word Abraham is derived from the Sanskrit word Brahma. The root of Brahma is 'Brah' which means - 'to grow or multiply in number.' In addition Lord Brahma, the Creator God of Hinduism is said to be the Father of all Men and Exalted of all the Gods, for it is from him that all beings were generated. Thus again we come to the meaning 'Exalted Father.' This is a clear pointer that Abraham is none other than the heavenly father Brahma."

(Vedic Past of Pre-Islamic Arabia; Part VI; p.2.)

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Cain or Kana is named after and is an avatar or incarnation of Kannan, a Tamil Hindu name for Krishna (p. 136 Michael Jordan's Encyclopedia of Gods.) His influence in the ancient world is immense, and the term kanna im, meaning zealot or avenging priest in the Talmud, as well as Canaanean is relevant here. Canaan was clearly just another name for Kannan, or Krishna/Vishnu. And Cainan or Kanneh is the name for that deity among the Sabaeans of Ethiopia (James Hastings, Dictionary of the Bible, reference Sheba, Seba, Saba).

I read your article on the Indian roots of Abraham. I was also researching this subject some time ago, and came to learn that the Hindu deity Shiva, is also known as Kedar. In fact, the Lord Shiva is worshipped in India at the Kedarnath Temple. What is intersting is that according to Arab traditions, and the Bible, Abraham's son Ishmael also had 12 sons, amongst the 12 sons, who later formed the 12 Tribes of Ishmael, one son was named Kedar. Prophet Muhammad is his descendent, as are the 12 Imams. Muslims believe that the promised Mahdi will descend from this family

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Believers Go To Heaven

2010-08-07T01:02:00.000-07:00

Believers Go To Heaven

Exception:
a) Believers Go To Hell
b) Believers wont go to heaven

Option A:
Believers Go To Hell:
It can be pronounced by Atheists like "Believers, Go To HELL!" or
It can also be understood like:
"Belief wont take you to Heaven, But Being Good, will make this World "A Heaven".

I believe "A single man cant change the world", But atleast he can change himself!. To change oneself, one has to control their thoughts. By developing good thoughts each individual changes himself, The individuals collectively form a society!. That will make this world "A heaven".

Change is root cause of all the happenings this world. Thought is the root cause of Change.

The world does not have life

2010-08-06T22:44:00.000-07:00

The world does not have life

The Exception to
"The world does not have life"
Would be

The World Has Life
This is a part 2 of my previous article

What if Living beings stops reproducing?

The body is made up of matter and energy , which has life, Likewise, the world collectively is made up of matter and energy, What if it had life?.,Likewise, The sun, Moon, each individually is made up of matter and energy and what if each had life?

Like wise each and every planet which are made up of matter and energy might have life?

Humans mostly think, that "They are the Body", But There arises a series of questions:

When hands pain and we go to the doctor, We say "Doctor, My Hand is Paining"
A woman with "Cyst problem" will be said by the doctor as "Your uterus has cyst and it needs to be removed - PCO (poly cystic ovary) ".
Some woman, even after removal of cyst, there is a chance it can occur again. All these are never controllable and if "I am this body", why dint i know it before and control?.

The fact would be:
Body is a machine, Just like a machine suffers wear and tear, without its control - the body also suffers wear and tear. Apart from this, Since a body is made up of matter, it is affected by disease and worms grow inside us.

Now lets come to the Worms Part which is more related to the "This world has life" post.

For the worms inside our body "Our body is the world".
Likewise, For Humans, "This earth is the World"

If Body can have life in it, why not the World?
The worms feed on matter, matter is used to create energy, Likewise, humans feed on matter and matter is used to create energy.
So the basic purpose of eating is to create energy to continue life, But the world depends on the energy given by the sun (Sun , by default has energy and so can continue living until that energy deplets)

Since the world depends on the sun, The entire beings on this world depends on the sun.

Sun (Huge Being) >>> World (bigger being) >>>> Beings

What if Living beings stops reproducing?

2010-08-06T08:51:00.000-07:00

What if Living beings stops reproducing?

Living being reproduces - Fact

Exception:

What if Entire living beings stopped reproducing?

But what is a Living Being?
The body is made up of matter and energy , which has life, Likewise, the world collectively is made up of matter and energy, What if it had life?.,Likewise, The sun, Moon, each individually is made up of matter and energy and what if each had life?

Like wise each and every planet which are made up of matter and energy might have life?

I am this body

2010-08-06T05:51:00.000-07:00

Every human thinks "I am this Body".

If i am this body:

a) Why cant i control ageing
b) Why cant i remove the bad smell that a body emits
c) Why cant i prevent disease

Exception:

I am not this body.

What if " I am Not This Body?"

Oh God., What if This body/ The Brain , hands, fingers are just Instruments to enjoy outward pleasures through the sense?.

Who is enjoying through These Senses?. Is the one who enjoys is Me or the ones which are the reasons to enjoy is Me?. Obviously, the one who enjoys is Me, then why do i associate myself with the organs that are used for enjoyment?.

Why This whole universe arise only when i wake up?, Where was it while i was sleeping?.

What if There is a mistaken Identity?

Disclaimer:
Borrowed mostly from Ramanars teachings. Buddist Śūnyatā philosophy is not taken into account

Are we from Chimps

2010-08-06T04:09:00.000-07:00

Exception to Darwin's theory would be
1)What if Darwins theory is wrong!

This gives rise to 2 possible answers
1)Humans dint evolve from chimps
2) What if humans devolved to Chimps (Theory of Devolution ?)

The first part is widely discussed by almost everyone in this world. But what if the second point is true and humans actually devolved into Chimps?.

For an example:
A seed which will grow into a big tree is made into a Bonzai. This is technically devolution through intervention!.

What if some natural intervention happend which might have lead to the devolution of humans, rather than evolution?

All are believers of God

2010-08-06T04:04:00.000-07:00

There are 2 types of Believers of God in this world:

1) One who believes in God
2) One who disbelieves God

But both Agrees on the term "God".

There is a 3rd category of people, who will say
"God does not Exist". (We can call them as Semi Atheists).

"An object does not exist" would simply mean that, It has existed before and now ceased to exist.

Some Semi Atheists will also mention
"There is nothing called God"

Nothing means - No Thing, which would also mean, God is not a Thing.

Lets come to the believers later.,

Theory Of Exception

2010-08-06T03:56:00.001-07:00

I consider that in this universe , Anything has an Exception - and can be called as "Theory of Exception"

Disclaimer:
I am a stupid* . I dont know anything about religion, science and other stuffs. What i write is simply my own thinking. So please forgive if any of my posts have hurt you.

Theory Of Exception

செவ்வாய் வெறும் வாய்

ஆஸ்திகன் யார் ?

நாஸ்தி என்ற சென்னை தமிழ் (My thoughts)

God Krishna Tells A story Which Tells About Earth revolving Around the Sun

Birth Cycle as per Srimad Bhagavatam

Brain Death does not Mean Death

Lord Krishna About attachment in Men

Erwin Schrödinger & Upanishads & Vedanta

5 Elements and the Body

Plastic Surgery, Vedas and Hinduism

History

Yajnavalkya and Hindu Days in A Year

Hindu Concept of Sun

Speed of Light - Vedic Astronomy

Expansion And Contraction of Universe - By Carl Sagan

Who Wrote the Vedas?

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Who wrote the vedas hindu hinduism scriptures? How did they form or come about in writting?

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

Vedas , Cosmology and Creation of this Universe:

Birth Of Moon

Are time and space are inextricably linked?

What Causes planets to Spin? - Part 2

What Causes planets to Spin?

What Causes planets to Spin?

Origin

Contribution by Indians - Part 1

Madhava of Sangamagrama

Madhava series

Madhava's series in modern notations

Does Science Really Help?

Currently Reading

Nature Of a devotee

Solar System Rotates around another Bigger System

Gravity Is it Real?

Where are the Devotees?

Science Helps this World

Did India Ruled America?

Noah's Arc

Believers Go To Heaven

The world does not have life

What if Living beings stops reproducing?

What if Living beings stops reproducing?

I am this body

Are we from Chimps

All are believers of God

Theory Of Exception